Tackling violence against women and girls

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2 months ago (12:20 PM)
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rushbrook

I am deeply concerned about violence against women and girls, as I am against any other group (young men, who represent a large proportion of those suffering criminal violence, and the elderly). I would wish to see them all receiving a similar level of protection and support.

Tams

I have to agree with your comments.
In the survey, there was nothing to identify violence against men and boys, or the elderly and disabled. At the end of the day, it is not only women and girls that suffer violence and abuse, but men, boys, elderly and disabled people also.

DreamChasersGang

Tams. This is a page about violence against women and girls. Nobody is saying there is no evidence vunrable people are victims of violence too. Unfortunately its happening and always will be. But haveing an uneffective police team is damaging to woman and other vaunrable person. Police just need to open their eyes and stop using their job as a playground to bully woman

chloe2307

Many organisations that support victims of sexual offences and domestic violences have had their funding cut under austerity measures, with many having to close down. The refuges that do still exist are now so over-capacity that they are turning away 1 in 3 women. Such violence isn’t a ‘women’s issue’ it’s an issue of justice and cutting funding whilst claiming violence against women and girls is ‘a priority' is unacceptable.

EUcitizen

I do agree that violence against women and girls should be a separate focus area. In my view respect for women are developing in the wrong direction. It was safer for me when I was young than it is for my daughter today, to, e.g. walk home late. Some crimes are very close to hate crimes - when men see women as less worthy of respect than men are.

grace8199

I agree with you on this one.

rushbrook

It might be reasonable for women and girls to be separate focus area, the issues are different, but I don't think they merit priority over other groups. I suspect it was safer when you were young for young men to walk home without danger of a knife attack. Women and girls are seldom the victims of this sort of attack, which is a major crime problem. If respect for women is developing in the wrong direction perhaps the focus should be on reversing that, but it is an issue of social values on which the voice of women is far from silent, and not of policing. Perhaps that voice needs to find a more attractive expression.

EUcitizen

Agree regarding knife attacks, but that is already a focus area as well. Agree also that long term value related projects are utterly important (starting with young children), but that would not help in stopping women being abused today or tomorrow. Everyday security for women is to show that society holds a good capacity to protect, and bring offences to justice. I don't understand your last sentence; Attractive to whom?

alggomas

I'm afraid as other people have commented on there us no money or government care available so we are stuck with abuse of not just females but all walks of society to different degrees. I think some sort of education would be useful but the male ego in youth is dominant. Anyway unless funding AND staff will be made available we are helpless. £££ is king. People are expendable as long as it does not affect members of the government.
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vzqzdlfns

Asian female teenagers are one of the groups more at risk of suicide because they feel trapped. Many are very able students that want a career but their families want to arrange a marriage for them in the belief that a "good girl" has to married young. I see this as violence against these young girls. The Major office needs to device a programme to educate traditional Asian parents into accepting gender equality in their families.

alggomas

I have no idea who you are.I am not saying your have no valid opinion so please take no offence.
If you are from an Indian/Asian family I will agree but I think one has to be in that situation, if so to give an accurate opinion.

Talk London

Some of you have mentioned violent crimes against women and girls as a particular concern, with some dangers also affecting men. Are there particular parts of the city or situations where you feel less safe as a woman? How do things change from day to night? Are there specific things that the police can do to address this?

sally sparrow

As a woman there's nowhere I feel safe at night. To those commenting that men are also victims too that is true and they deserve support too, but the vast majority of victims of sexual violence are women and the perpetrators, against other men as well as women are nearly always men. That isn't being sexist or demonising the good men it's fact. More decent men need to call out the bad ones on their misogyny and support women. The number of women who are victims is shocking, but the government don't care and the waiting lists for counselling are growing as funding for the charities that support victims is cut. A greater police presence at night would reassure women.

alggomas

In addition to my previous comments.
I have to say there are too many helpful organisations so cooperation is very difficult,plus the cost of rates/ running costs for each one.
Not just ones for this subject.

pukpuk

I was concerned about women safety until a 36 years old man was raped.
It's high time to focus on criminals than genders. Deport all criminals, especially rapist instead of letting them free and inviting more.

EUcitizen

I think you have a point that we should focus on the criminals. Who is committing these types of crimes? Work with statistics to understand more and find if possible some root causes. This might give the answer to when, where police should focus.
I also agree that sexual assaults, even if "milder" than rape, should lead to deportation if the criminal is not a UK citizen, as it goes to the heart and soul of how we want to live our lives. Like terrorism, fear of being a victim, fear of walking alone etc. affects much more people than the victim her(him)self.

tallsam

The vast majority of criminals in this country are British. Where are you going to deport them to?

pukpuk

Are they?

tallsam

Of course they are.

Between 11-14% of the UK prison population is foreign.

alggomas

Regarding "majority of criminals are British"

This covers all crimes not the subject matter.

Some subtle education as I mentioned before.
If however you wish to deport people they have to be refugees/migrants/people wishing to become British Citizens.

Remember that migrants are not all from Syria or the middle East. they are from Europe, America and all nations.
Personally if you wish to live permanently in our country you must have say a 5 year exclusive residency.

tallsam

Regarding the subject matter then the majority of criminals who commit these crimes are also Brits.

DreamChasersGang

Violence against woman has got to start being taken seriously. Regardless to weather the woman has never been subject to violence or not. When will police stop victimising woman who have suffered from the aftermath of violence! Its shatters lifes full stop and trivialising the violence that woman go through is unacceptable and police need to start standing up and showing they

DreamChasersGang

* showing they care. Liasing with other proffesionalls attending every safeguarding meeting is a necessity. Violence against woman has got to stop and be dealt with promptly, and offenders must pay the price

rushbrook

DreamChasersGang - I don't imagine that anybody would disagree with you, any more than they would with condemning violence against men. I have never seen data on females killed as a result of violence as compared with men, or the psychological consequences of violence in each case, which might be material to the allocation of resources. For that matter, I have not seen comparative data in terms of suffering from bullying or social media abuse. One accepts that the nature of problems faced by men and women are not the same - indeed "vive la difference", but a balanced approach in allocating taxpayer resources in helping to resolve them is needed. One has the impression that these initiatives are being driven by sectional interests rather than those of society in general.

DreamChasersGang

Dear rushbrook i would hope nobody would have the audasity to disagree. That would just be ruthless. Maybe you should have a look a figures last i checked....up to 3 woman a week are killed from violence against them. Alot suffer from neglect from the police and lack of support from services and organsations that are put in place to support these woman. But unfortunatly it boils down to cuts that strip their resources down to a minimum resulting in victims left without justice on the polices behalf and no support from organisations.........this is an outstanding issue now. Also doesnt help police victimise these woman and labble them as a neuciance. Some police just lack compassion and thats a big shame

DreamChasersGang

Unfortunately for a lot of woman, justice is not served...but at least ensure her safety and put steps in place to support her ie, realistic safety measures and aftercare from the abuse or violence. It shatters lives changing them forever. And nothing is more criminal than the justice system failing their victims.

DreamChasersGang

Just curious who actually looks at the comments......why should it be debatable that violence against women should be taken seriously....... i will never forget the damage police have caused me in my life from trivialising the abuse i go through. No human should have to deal with this..... i cannot say a nice word for your neglect and misconduct....remember my name. Hannah

Byebyeblues7

I'm deeply concerned about domestic violence. My case was dealt with so badly, the police officer who dealt with it was hardly professional, interested or approachable and the CPS didn't charge possibly also because he had a clean record.. I know he offended before but women suffer in silence and don't bother reporting domestic violence offenders because they know they would go through a very difficult process for nothing. How sad and disarming.

wabg1

Focusing only on women and girls in this way is only going to be divisive. We need a Mayor and police force that doesn't buy into the hateful rhetoric of identity politics, quotas and political correctness, or else I can only imagine this problem getting worse not better

DreamChasersGang

Wabg1 I dont want to sound negative hear...but im pretty sure this page is a discussion about violence against woman/Girls and how serious certain idividules take it...of course violence against anyone is not okay. The point is woman are suffering badley from abuse and the lack of help they get which frankly is not acceptable esspecially when you have half arsed police officers who trivialise attacks on woman. This is an isue a big issue, that police our pubic servants are not living up to their ouths. They let woman down they shatter their lives more than the actual attack itself does and every attack after, nothing in comparrison to police neglecting their victims and icolating them from suportm causing more attacks
focusing on woman/girls cannot be a bad thing or divisive people as a man you should be against it just as i would be toward violence against men/boys to say it could cause a hositilty by divising people than you are pratically saying you agree with violence against woman....maybe you chose yours words wrongly? i hope....because i cannot imagine you ment that men and woman are on diffrent teams.....

nessy42

Focusing on the protection of women and girls is not divisive. For example domestic violence has long terms consequences. The women risk been stuck in a cycle of abuse, which has consequences for her in terms of mental health and certainly has consequences for her children. I wonder how many children/young people trapped in gangs, have experienced direct or indirect domestic abuse

DreamChasersGang

Police need body cameras fitted on them something that was promised in 2003..... studies show a dramatic drop in police complaints. Accurate prosecutions and less chance of harm coming to the public and oh ofcourse more safer for officers......hurry up and get your body cam on ....something the currupt cop will hate ...

nquinton2002

Older women over 40+ needs organisations to support them from street violence, abuse. Not just for boyfriend husband and family violence abuse. Many wonen all ages from old to young are being high levels of abuse and violence on our high streets, in our neighbourhoods many are strangers. Needs to be dealt with discrimination and persecution is massive on the streets for many women. Discrinations ranging from age to aggresiveness is occurring by lot of public to small petite short older women being nistaken to be the kids on streets today. This violence, abuse persecution and discrimination so heavy on some women to make laws against this on our streets. Somchange the laws to orotect the older generation mistaken to be tge kids needs protecting a lot more. Not run to ground but to protect them from public. Basically the world have gone crazy. As we all know
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Talk London

Thanks all for your views posted above. These will all be analysed along with all responses to our policing and crime survey, which closed yesterday. We’ll leave this thread open for further discussion, however.

We’ve added a new post to our blog with a thank you message from the Deputy Mayor for Policing and Crime. This also sets out what happens next in creation of the Mayor’s Police and Crime Plan.

Thanks again!

Talk London Team

vbellaton

So does it mean that you will also give room for the racist and misogynistic comments expressed. I am for one sick of the "thank you for your comments" addressed to this kind of individuals when coming from public offices. Why is there no moderator and why are these comments even still there. This is unacceptable and hurtful. The voices of others are censored by the attacks of these individuals! Why are we giving them so much space? So that they can walk free all over others?

Talk London

Hi vbellaton,

We do moderate Talk London - here's our moderation policy. We also provide a 'report' button on discussions (see above) for if you feel the need to draw our attention to anything that we need to review.

Hope that's helpful,

Talk London Team 

Martimus

I strongly object to a sexist emphasis, the group of individuals in our society most likely to be attacked is young men between 18 and 25, there are more suicides in this age group than every other, this group is most likely to go to university. Healthcare is also slanted towards women when more men die of testicular cancer than breat cancer.

Two areas that need to be urgently addressed in our society, is violence perpetrated by women on their male or female partners and the increasing sexual crimes committed by women again children.

Please balance this section as it is totally unacceptable in 2016 to push a feminism agenda in a post-feminist age

DreamChasersGang

There is nothing sexist about addresing violence against girls and woman , its a big issue. And if you feel its unacceptable go to a forum that deals with the issues u have . This is a page about this particular issue.... i dont understand the negative comments....give some constructive criticism or advice,

Martimus

This page should address the issues of violence in our society, both men and women, boys and girls, divisive sexual politics in not appropriate in 2016 and it is both shameful and ignorant of the Mayor's office not to be aware of this.